In the interview, Michaela Huber explains that organized violence structures are not a new or unbelievable phenomenon, but have been documented for decades—including through her own studies in the 1990s. The recent revelations surrounding the Epstein cases therefore confirmed much of what had long been known. At the same time, she raises the question of why these indications were ignored for so long and emphasizes the role of influential networks, power structures, and mechanisms of coercion that may help sustain such systems. She also points out that people who criticize or attempt to expose these structures are often discredited or not taken seriously.